Irvin Baxter...2 billion will die and the swine flu

Here is a case for Irvin Baxter....2 billion will die and the swine flu or what is now being called the H1N1 Mexican flu virus.

Because the end time is now.

As Mexico is struggling to find the source of the killer flu my focus is returned to what is now becoming a series of posts which started over a year ago. 

I was looking for information on prophecy on youTube when I came across a sermon by  Irvin Baxter of endtime ministries in which he was making what seemed at the time to be a weighted prediction.  

When he mentioned that 2 billion people would die within 12 months of his sermon I became very sceptical and i wrote up a post . I usually do not date posts but this time I made it a point to mark the time.

A year passed and someone posted a comment on that post which brought the issue back to my mind and i reflected on the Irvin Baxter prediction and stated that we were still all here. Or at least humanity was still numbering above the 6 billion mark. Strangely enough the author of the comment signed off as Irv....who knows????

At the time of the second post it still seemed quite ludicrous a claim to see 6 billion reduced to 4 billion but that was then and we hadn't heard of the Mexican flu and unless you were following the medical reviews or involved in the health community somehow then it wouldn't be until late April of 2009 that news of an outbreak of a new strain of influenza, a flu virus comprising a mixture of DNA from the swine flu pathogen, the avian flu pathogen, and a human flu pathogen, would become mainstream information.

Of course to insiders what has now become known as the H1N1 strain was a subject that was developing since mid March and maybe even earlier in 2009. 

Irvin Baxter...2 billion will die and the swine flu saga continues

But suddenly the Irvin Baxter prediction that 2 billion will die within twelve months had a possible underlying cause. - more than we can say for the idiot government money printing nowadays.

Suddenly I look back on my previous posts and I stand in awe of this man of religion. Irvin Baxter may be on to something. 

Meanwhile... comparing Irvin Baxter...2 billion will die and the swine flu with an alternate fictional version of the fourth horseman rides in on a pale horse and his name is DEATH

A long time ago I read "the Stand". 

Stephen King may have been on to something when he spun a story of end time around Captain Tripps. The viral outbreak in King's version started as an accident on a US military base and while some attempts were made to contain the flu from spreading one family managed to escape the military compound. Within hours the flu pandemic took it's roots in the civilian population and within days Capt Tripps was a global catastrophy and an apocalyptic pestilence. 

The fourth horseman called death was riding the wind and showing no mercy.

The swine flu that is making news headlines in April of 2009 may be causing great fear among humans but this H1N1 is certainly not hitting as hard or as fast as the fictional Captain of the King and master of the horror picture.

So is this to say that Irvin Baxter is wrong in his prediction of impending doom for one third of humanity ? 

Remember people, 2012 is around the corner and prophecy is the name of the game. It is the score so to say and the interpreters of prophecy are the score keepers. Remember also that Christian preachers and ministers are warned by their sacred text to look for signs but not to date the end.

Ironically, the King story could be called "Revelations of the King" for it is almost a parody of the book of Revelation found in the Holy Bible. To go even further it is almost the same story told by those who have interpreted the end time as being 2012 according to ancient calendars such as the Mayan and Aztec calendars. 

All of these stories talk of a time of cataclysm where apocalyptic events are unleashed one after another and where the spirit of time is changed. 

The characters are named differently in every version but the plot is almost the same every time.

It's about a spiritual war and the advent of a new age which the Hindu Brahman's would refer to as the Golden Age or the Satya Yuga. The next few years may be the final phase of the fourth age or the end of the spirit of the Kali Yuga cycle.

For now however, my hat is off to this man of religion called Irvin Baxter. 

Let's all pray that he is dead wrong on this one. 

NO PUN INTENDED!!!!   

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See also

The first post in the Irvin Baxter...2 billion will die and the swine flu saga.

The second post...the one with the comment signed Irv

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What is 2012?
Venus Transit - Galactic Alignment - Spiritual Ascension - TimeWave Zero - 13.0.0.0.0 the end of the Baktun Long Count - December 21, 2012 Winter Solstice - A portal into the Yuga Golden Age
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2 billion will die

The sermon stated 2 billion will die.

This is a follow up on a post that i'd made about Irvin Baxter after having watched his youTube video series where he goes on about how he truly predicts 2 billion will die within the next twelve months.

That message by Mr Baxter was presented some 14 months ago and the vast majority of humanity is still among us and struggling more than ever in this dimension in order to retain their employment in a world gone mad.

As for prophecy interpretation and accuracy i would be more comfortable in putting my faith in educators such has Physicist Nassim Haramein who took the subject of Nibiru, or Planet X and went out of his way to come up with some heavy facts as to the possibility that the event prophesied by shaman may have been fulfilled in 2003 but covered up from the masses by government intelligence and scientific agencies.



But Haramein's claim is just an interpretation.

So how does that differ from the false claims and the constant soothsaying efforts of people like Irvin Baxter.

I don't totally disagree with Mister Baxter that 2 billion will die at some point in the future...maybe five minutes after i post this.

I don't disagree with him that there is a NWO being formed and that the head of that statehood will gain his throne of New World King by deceiving the masses.

I don't disagree with him that the RFID chip is part of that process...

...but i do disagree with him that he and others like him - Jack Van Impe - not to mention any names but since he was part of the cast of the last post then what the hay - that they rapture - according to their interpreted version of rapture or ascension while the rest of us spiritual bone baskets struggle in the heap of @$%@$%@ that may be the 2012 final days or even the days after the time when revelation exposes the truth of 2 billion will die.

2012 is about an ascension and about a time of entering a golden age.

The truth is not in words as one man once said; the way nature reacts to words is the only truth.

Nature never lies.

Interpreters often do.

The first video in the 2 billion will die series as some serious comments from people who feel deceived by Irvin Baxters words. see youTube.

And i'm certain that when 2012 rolls around those hundreds of vids on 2012, including JVI's will also get the same treatment should nothing substantial happen from now until then.

But face it.....some day someone will get those dang prophecies interpreted right. And when they do there can only be two results.

Either no one will be alive to talk about it, or we will have entered the golden age where just maybe someone will have figured out how to get rid of the devil who always finds a way to bind us to our differences.

February 9, 2009








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What is 2012?
Venus Transit - Galactic Alignment - Spiritual Ascension - TimeWave Zero - 13.0.0.0.0 the end of the Baktun Long Count - December 21, 2012 Winter Solstice - A portal into the Yuga Golden Age
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Biblical Rapture and 2012 prophecy

Just as it is the nature of religious men to find signs of the second coming of their lord without putting exact dates on this Christian foretold time according to Sacred text, it is evident that many New Age Christians and Evangelicals are finding it difficult not to point the finger to the Mayan end date of December 21, 2012 as the apocalyptic prophetic time described in the Book of Revelations and other prophetic bible books.

Several Christian movements have adopted their own version of this end time and within this interpretation they have included a specific understanding of a phenomenon called the RAPTURE.

What is the rapture ?

Basically it is a moment in time when the true disciples of Christ, according to Rapture theory, are taken out of the material body and risen to the spiritual world at the side of their understood saviour. Those who are not spiritually ready, again according to rapture theory are left behind to face the events of the apocalypse.

The rapture theory is mostly formulated from bible scripture such as the following from Matthew 24: 40 - 41

Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left. Two women will be grinding with a hand mill; one will be taken and the other left.

and Acts 1: 9-11

After he said this, he was taken up before their very eyes, and a cloud hid him from their sight.
They were looking intently up into the sky as he was going, when suddenly two men dressed in white stood beside them. "Men of Galilee," they said, "why do you stand here looking into the sky? This same Jesus, who has been taken from you into heaven, will come back in the same way you have seen him go into heaven."

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  Rapture Theorists use several other biblical passages to convince themselves and others that they have interpreted the word of God according to the Bible properly. Such passages might include :
  
  Matthew 24: 30-36
• John 14: 1-3
• 1 Corinthians 15: 51-52
• 1 Thessalonians 4: 15-17
• Phillipians 3: 20-21
• and others

Where does the Rapture Theory come from?

In the 19th Century an Irish Christian evangelist named John Nelson Darby taught the message of the rapture to a group a believers in the United States. The message continued to gain prominence among evangelicals under the guidance of William Eugene Blackstone who used the printing press as a propaganda tool through a highly popular book called "Jesus is Coming".

On a side note it is interesting to mention that as this is happening in the early to mid 1800's the Mormon Church of the Latter Day Saints is newly founded by Joseph Smith in the same generation. The Mormon however do not believe in the Rapture as the Evangelicals do.

We move passed the 1950's and there are new Evangelicals such has Hal Lindsey and Russell Doughten who are teaching those who want to believe them about this concept of magical ascension into a metaphysical realm. ( On a side note...and making a fortune in the process). These people and the rapture theory is supported by song writers and actors who agree to again use the media as a propaganda tool to extend their message.

Further into the new millenium the Rapture believers are still at it. Hal Lindsey is still at it and now we here a new name playing the same old fiddle. Here we have the good ole TV ministers Jack Van Impe and his beautiful wife Rexella who are convinced that they are schedualed for a trip into the ethereal realm of the spiritual just before the great tribulation is about to unfold. ( Now i feel a little cheated by this act of grandeur...how dare you take all the money and run when the kettle is about to boil over....). The Van Impe's are right into this 2012 prophecy stuff. Good old Jack can't put a date on it since that would go against the teachings of St. Matthew where no one knows the hour, yet you need only to watch is program once to see him grinning at the very possibility that those dang gone pagan mayans might have been onto something.

In fact they have mastered what they believe to be another great video in their endless series of videos that should keep them in the money until they disappear from the scene, a scene they describe as an horrific time that the rest of us will need to deal with from our earthly material body. I haven't personally seen the 2012 Van Impe video but i imagine it takes every Mayan concept of spiritual ascension or end time concept and turns it into a Christian issue. (Isn't that just a continuation of the original Mayan idea burning that the Spaniards started in the 16th century ? ).

Other names associated with current rapture theory spiritual ascension include Tim Lahaye and Jerry Jenkins (not to be mistaken for John Major Jenkins, the galactic alignment theorist) who brought us the film and book "Left Behind". I did see that film and it was as stupid to me as the recent 2012 Doomsday film that i recently viewed. 2012 Doomsday also pretty much raped the crap out of the reality of the Mayan legends of 2012 and turned it into a Christian festival that includes the rapture.

However this rapture concept is not a phenom that is agreed about by all branches of Christianity. The Catholic Church for instance deny the rapture. As mentioned before the Church of the Latter Saints or Mormons don't support the rapture concept. Even some evangelicals question the merits of the Rapture Theory.

To remain a generalist i am telling you that it might be true and the again it might not be true. What i can say is that i wish i was making a fraction of the money that some of these evangelicals make on selling religion while they wait to get scooped away before the @#%# hits the fan.

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What is 2012?
Venus Transit - Galactic Alignment - Spiritual Ascension - TimeWave Zero - 13.0.0.0.0 the end of the Baktun Long Count - December 21, 2012 Winter Solstice - A portal into the Yuga Golden Age
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Large Hadron Collider can't be dangerous according to 2012 doomsayers

Last time i looked at the Large Hadron Collider i was saying that if you are a believer in bible prophecy then you wouldn't be concerned about the possibility of such a machine destroying the world since the Bible prophets tell you that the world will not end anytime soon. It may go through a series of apocalyptic events and leave a very small population left to rebuild humanity from there but it won't end. If you're a 2012 prophecy believer then obviously the August start up of the LHC will not cause any problems since that would negate the 2012 prophecies of gloom and doom.

So when CERN starts up the Large Hadron Collider in August of 2008 there is nothing to worry about for the 2012 doomsayers.

It's strange that my mind has been focused on singularity and duality issues for the past few days and then i start reading about this machine that has people talking about the possibility of returning all duality back to the singulatity of a blackhole.
We will know in September if we need to continue considering 2012 prophecy or any other prophecy.

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Reference

Scientists say there's nothing to fear from atom-smasher. The Canadian Press

Seven Sins and Mayan Prophecy according to Mahatma Gandhi

There are seven sins in the world: Wealth without work, Pleasure without conscience, Knowledge without character, Commerce without morality, Science without humanity, Worship without sacrifice and politics without principle.

-Mahatma Gandhi

Does Mahatma Gandhi, a man who lived by the beliefs of the great Yuga cycles of good and evil forces that rule the human psyche, and the Mayan creators of cyclic calendars, speak the same language.

Mayan scholars say 2012 is a consciousness revival that will see humanity rise above the seven sins that Mahatma Gandhi describes. The interpreters of the Yugas state that during the Kali Yuga period men will be rapped up in the bondage of Gandhi's seven sins. Then through a consciousness revival process these things will come to pass and man will pass to a Golden Age once again.

Bible scholars will explain that same process as the coming of the Lord and the ascension of consciousness for the chosen ones who will go on to live a thousand years in peace.

Are we there yet?

Wealth without work

picture courtesy of FreakingNews.com

Pleasure Without Conscience

Knowledge Without Character


Commerce Without Morality

Photo courtesy of ericblumrich.com

Science Without Humanity

Worship Without Sacrifice

Politics Without Principles

Christus Victor - A disputed model of duality and spiritual warfare

Although the prophetic interpreter voice of the day often gives specific dates or targets such as December 21, 2012 or October 28, 2011, bible prophecy interpreters are less likely to date their beliefs of what is to come. They usually adhere to the warning that "no one will know the day or the hour, not even the prophets..but there will be signs...." and those signs that are so evident in the world today seem to give creedence to those bible prophecy interpreters who at least mention 2012 in their work. See the TV minister Jack Van Impe's 2012 references for more on that.

The Bible is about spirit and the position of material within that spirit and about doing what it takes to remove the dark forces of evil from shining on the journey of the enlightened soul. It's a story of physical being in a metaphysical realm. The movie is an eternal story with no beginning and no end, it's all body. The acts are played in cycles of time where physical and metaphysical battles between good and evil clash. Where at times evil and destructive forces and people rule and at other times good and progressive people and concepts rule. Humans are but a small part of these cyclic acts. The human psyche is affected by the whole and effects the whole.

Gustaf Aulen looked deeply into the duality of good and evil forces and wrote of his observation of the role of the early churches and the atonement or penitance system that they used. The Aulen Christus Victor book describes three basic theories in view of these atonements. One of these Christus Victor theories basically states that Adam and Eve sold humanity to the Devil and that the church needed to pay a ransom to the dark side in order to break the bondage. The ransom was Jesus.

The Grey Coats is a blog that mentions spiritual duality in the form of Grey Coats versus Blue Coats and they have written what i find to be a good review of Aulen's Thesis on duality in the early churches and of the cosmic influence and the human psyche reacting to the metaphysical lords which are the worshipped deity of those church priests and congregation.

Excerpt from Christus Victor.

“Man had been created by God that he might have life. If now, having lost life, and having been harmed by the serpent, he were not to return to life but were to be wholly abandoned to death, then God would have been defeated, and the malice of the Serpent would have overcome God’s will.”

Are we all flesh and bone and serfs of a metaphysical aura and if we are then are we free to choose who's servants we will be?

Will we someday fully ascend into the perfected realm of heaven or is all religious doctrine just a false belief system?

Is this duality of good and evil just a test and is the real reality a singular realm like the pre-Adamic era where we did not know of good and evil. Everything just was.



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Reference

The Grey Coats - Christus Victor review

Wikipedia - Gustaf Aulen, Christus Victor

Bible Prophecy Interpreter Author Michael Drosnin

Michael Drosnin wrote several books but two of these were directly related to Bible Prophecy. The second book entitled The Bible Code 2 was a sequel to Bible Code.
The Bible Code is a real phenomenon also referred to as the Torah Code, and the Torah consists of the first five books of the Hebrew Bible. The Hebrew bible is also known as the Old Testament. Many scholars and Torah worshipers say Drosnin's work is bogus and that the Torah code cannot be used to predict the future.
Michael Drosnin argues differently and contends to prove his argument by showing results of past predictions that have been calculated by a computer program which uses a concept called ELS which stands for Equidistant Letter Sequences.

Drosnin's credibility took a big hit when he challenged the scientific community to find another literary work that could be used in the ELS concept and that would be predictive. Unfortunately they succeeded in doing so in the famous book entitled Moby Dick. Dissatisfied, Drosnin continued to support his claim and continued to decipher Bible Code through his method. His predictions were drawing the attention of powerful world figures along the way.

Opposers to Drosnin's process made a good argument to his prophetic method in a paper called "The Madness Method" they made a similar claim in regards to Bible Prophecy 2.

It is now 2008 and we should be less concerned with Drosnin's work and more focused on the Mayan 2012 end of a long count cycle. I say that because the Drosnin system failed a major test when 2006 came and went without a nuclear holocaust which he'd predicted through his ELS concept.

Drosnin has faced major skepticism in the voice of Barry Simon, an IBM Professor of Mathematics. On Barry Simons site one can find plenty of evidence to the bogus nature of Drosnin's claims. This excerpt can be read in full there.

Mathematicians' Statement on the Bible Codes

We are making this statement concerning what have been called
"Bible codes" or "Torah codes". We recognize that many sincere people take this
phenomenon seriously, which compels us to speak out on the basis of what our
mathematical training tells us about the evidence claimed for this alleged
phenomenon.
There is a common belief in the general community to the effect
that many mathematicians, statisticians, and other scientists consider the
claims to be credible. This belief is incorrect. On the contrary, the almost
unanimous opinion of those in the scientific world who have studied the question
is that the theory is without foundation. The signatories to this letter have
themselves examined the evidence and found it entirely unconvincing.
We refer
in particular to the paper Equidistant Letter Sequences in the Book of Genesis,
published in Statistical Science in 1994. This experiment suffers from major
problems concerning both its execution and the interpretation of its
conclusions. Even without these concerns, we would not take such extraordinary
claims seriously without a vastly more systematic and thorough investigation. No
such investigation has been carried out, nor has the work so far established a
prima facie case. In addition, word clusters such as mentioned in Witztum's and
Drosnin's books and the so called messianic codes are an uncontrolled phenomenon
and similar clusters will be found in any text of similar length. All claims of
incredible probabilities for such clusters are bogus, since they are computed
contrary to standard rules of probability and statistics.

There are 50 scholarly names attached to this letter.

What good can be said about Drosnin then. Well, he did say that he is not a prophet. The man played his beliefs to the maximum and his game involved several big political names. It just goes to show that in times such as these when everything seems to focus on a common theme such as 2012 that many people can and will be deceived. We know a few facts about 2012 like the alignment of the earth, sun, and galactic core, and the passing of the Venus Transit, and the December 21, 2012 yearly winter solstice, but the rest is interpretation of mystic and mythological lore. To take anything from those prophecies to serious is a trap whether or not it comes to pass.


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References

The Madness Papers

Barry Simon on Torah Codes.

Ingermanson critics the Bible Code and it's sequel